Moon nodes

[sunny70]

I see that there aren't very many people posting here, but Jan's books have been great guidance to me and I thought I would step in and say a few words. At the moment I am still lost (otherwise I suppose I wouldn't live) and would very much like to discuss other people's Nodes. I saw that someone here was talking about the south node being in the same sign as their Sun. I on the other hand have my south node in Virgo conjunct my Sun in Leo. Orb. 3 degrees. They're in the 1st house. Now my north node naturally is in the 7th house, and THAT is giving me a hard time at the moment. Uranus has been going back and forth and now it's going to cross my norht node again in Pisces. The past year has been full of ups and downs in relationships, people coming and going in my life. I very much wanted to find just one person to be with, but that just doesn't seem to happen to me. I went to meet my boyfriend in Janyary(he lives in another country) and fell in love with his brother. Who on the other hand is not wanting to see me anymore, although we had the most wonderful time together. So end of that story. I spend my life helping people, I do a lot of astrological interpretations and write words of encouragement to depressed people. I am a listener and a helper, in a very Pisces way. But what about me??? A Leo surely would need some true love too, not just thanks yous from people. How do these nodes work for other people? Is there any way to find balance in relationships? I hope there are other people to share their thoughts on this.

[Aquamarine]

Hi Sunny!

I work for Jan & am a student of Astrology. I read your dilemma and wondered if maybe we could "swap" information... help each other?

What I mean is that I'll throw in my 2 cents and could you perhaps help me understand what it "feels" like to have your Sun conjuct your South Node in the 1st?... what does that "feel" like?

I guess first... as you read here on the Message Board, when the South Node cojoins a planet, Jan used the wording (if I remember correctly, check out Jason Robert's post...) - Jan has found that the South Node energy needs to be replayed out to be purified.

My personal take on what Jan is describing is that, well.. yes, that kinda makes sense because you have the essence of your being (your Sun) helping to clarify "where" you've been/an overused muscle/perhap's some misunderstanding here - (your South Node). And you WILL work this out (via it's conjucnction)... THEN, when the eternal part of you (God, your subconscious, nature, your higher self... whatever you want to call it) feels like, "that's better... now I think I've got it" (the highest octave/expression in your life of your South Node by sign & house)... THEN... I think what Jan is explaining - you begin to embrace the expression of the energies of your North Node.

And that's what your soul ultimately wants... to walk that path towards your North Node.

So it makes sense that you "spend your life helping people," are a "listener & helper" - to me that seems like you're describing your service to others... that's a Virgo kinda thing, and it is YOU doing it!... that's a 1st house kind of thing... yes? So there's your South Node! Then, you say you do it in a "very Pisces way" (there's your North Node).

See the blending? The transition or shift there? Only you would know but perhaps something in the way you are being of service to others is the "purifying" effect Jan describes that opens up your ability to do it "in a very Pisces way," (your wording).

No doubt you're not going to escape revolutionary changes (Uranus) in your relationships with those transits... but a fun-loving, playful Leo like yourself can certainly go out there & form meaningful, fun, win-win partnerships, right? Whether they are light & easy & temporary, in your work, or deep & more serious/meaningful... just have fun! (That's a Leo kind of thing!)

hope something there helps... my 2 cents, now can you help me?

I have a dear friend, Sun, Moon, Merc., & South Node conjuct in Aries in the 6th. Strike a familiar chord? Yes I know your conjuction is in the 1st, but that's an Aries "arena." Hers=6th and that's a Virgo arena...

I'm just wondering if you can help me understand what it "feels" like to have your South Node (over simplification... but, "where you've been") conjuct your Sun (who you are)?

Never mind the fact her Moon & Merc. are there too... she's going through a difficult time (inwardly/depression/family hardships) and I'm trying to truly understand... how she feels... I see her kind of "stuck" in a thought process that goes something like...

"I will (Aries) be there for my loved ones (Moon)... and make everything perfect (6th house) if I could just re-think this & organize it or analyze it better (Merc & South Node in the 6th house)... even if it kills me"

And it slowly is killing her... she is a friend & I'm trying to understand what she is feeling inside so that I can somehow be of assistance in her embracing her North Node (Libra/12th).

I've given her Jan's book, a book on meditation, we've talked about "letting go," seclusion & down-time (12th house)... some progress...

Anything you feel inspired to help me with - I would be very thankful...

[sunny70]

Hello!
Thank you for your comments. I can tell you that Sun conjunct South Node is tough! I'm sure it is for your Aries friend too. It appears that for people with the South Node in the 1st house things don't come easy in life. I'm not saying that they are easy for all the rest of the people, I'm just saying that this particular aspect seems to hold you back, you are not able to do what you want with your life. I always think it's unfair to be born a Leo, with a South Node in the 1st house telling you that you are or HAVE BEEN too selfish in the past. I think that's what your friend might feel too, because Aries has the same effect as the 1st house, you're here to live for yourself, but then for some strange reason you're kept from that, and you need to instead work for others. It's a very tough lesson for a Leo as I'm sure it's for an Aries. I love working for other people, what I don't like is that I always feel left out. People like me as long as I'm able to help them. But once they find me useless, they move on. I think maybe the Pisces North Node brings in this self-sacrifice aspect. Not a Leo thing to do, but something I have lived with all my life. I don't go to relationships to have fun, I go to learn things and teach things to others. My relationships are always deep and meaningful. I think with this Transiting Uranus conjunct my North Node I for the first time met a man with whom I had FUN. But it didn't last long and I feel worse than ever. I realized that's the kind of person I want to be with, have fun and do things, AND discuss meaningful issues, but it just wasn't meant to be. It just came to show me what it is that I am looking for. I have always wanted to rescue men, so I have gone to relationships wanting to love people who felt they never had been loved. With my big Leo heart I certainly can love like no one else. But doing so, I have done it for those people more than doing it for me. And once I feel they've learned enough(or I have), then I move on. I get bored with those relationships. Maybe it's my inability to stay in relationships after all. So this is what I am dealing with my North Nodes. That particular conjunction to Sun feels like it's making me stand still instead of living. I feel that I have lost every year of my life and it's all for nothing. I do realize that I have learned many things, but I feel like I haven't LIVED. So it holds you back, for some karmic reasons perhaps, and I've spent my whole life wondering what it is that I'm doing wrong to deserve this life. I don't work anymore, I have been depressed and I suffer from social anxiety. Or so I tell myself so that I don't have to face the world anymore. I am so tired... But then more people come to me and ask for advice and I support them, but I never get payed, maybe that's also a Pisces self-sacrifice thing to do. All my life I have basically worked for free and volunteered to a lot of things. But without money I can't get anything for myself, I can't create the life I would want to have. Money has always been an issue to me, I don't want money, but yet of course in this world you would need it.
Does your friend have issues with her father? Sun indicating father might bring something from a past life existence into this life, and I certainly had a very difficult childhood with my father and men in general. But I have other aspects on my chart to support that.
It just seems that with Sun conjunct South Node people are not allowed to be very self-centered and especially not live in ways that would let you do things for your ego. But then I'm lost, why are people born as Leos and Aries people, IF they have to hold back their individuality and the very Sun that rules their life. That seems so unfair. So I keep thinking that I have some very bad karma to deserve this kind of life. I just wish I knew what it is that I'm supposed to do here now, so that I could work for it better.
I don't know if this was of any help to you, but I hope so. 6th house-12th house deal with the very same issues in a way, so maybe your friend is going through the same as me.

[tracy]

Sunny

Try this one. I have a dear friend who has nn 8`conjuncting Sun 12` in Leo, 2nd H. In opposition with Saturn and T-ing Neptune 10`Scorpio, 5th H.

Talk about the ups and downs in her relationship sector of life, ouch!! or make that OUCH !! Not only romantic relationships, but all relationships. It seams to her 'they' (these new people) come to her, she optimistically treats each one as the usual and lo and behold just like the twilight zone the outcomes of these relationships end up the same and not to her favor.

You mentioned Uranus in opposition, she too feels this strain and has for a number of years. --during the Uranus in opp. sign of Aquarius. Hopefully for each of you this changes in the coming months, as slow and steady Uranus moves beyond these sensitive spots in your charts.

Tracy
:rolleyes:

[Belladawn]

And is that possible? I'm not sure if I read the charts exactly right, when it comes to the degrees. :rolleyes: There is actually, now that I look at it again, a 13' separation between the sun and N.N. That isn't conjunct then, is it?

But they are still in the same sign, which must be significant. (Of course, I suppose everything is significant to some degree.) I'll go read up on it.