North Node versus Lunar Eclipse

[Freesia]

First of all, I find Jan's books really great! I have read Astrology for the Soul and Spiritual Astrology and they often have a healing effect on me - when I feel down, confused or disorientated I just need to read a few minutes in those books and I already feel much better and clearer. It's really amazing!

However, I'm being a bit unsure about contradictive constellations, such as an opposition of the north node and the lunar eclipse as it appears in my birth chart. Does it mean that I first have to learn the qualities of sign & house the lunar eclipse (and the south node) is in before I can move towards the north node direction? Or should I rather try to find the perfect balance between them? Anyway, it doesn't feel like I should leave one of the two directions behind in this lifetime for they both seem important and helpful to me.

If anybody has the same problem or has an advice how to handle this I would be very happy if you write, thank you!!

[Aquamarine]

Hello Freesia! ~ ...it's been my experience that there are some "general concepts" about the relationships between the Nodes & your Pre-Natal Lunar & Solar Eclipses...

...maybe something here may be helpful to you?

In general, your North Node now represents something foreign, something you will learn to love & embrace in this Lifetime, only after conditions represented by your South Node are to be lived again... in order to purify this placement (your South Node) to it's highest potential. Then, you will begin to fully embrace what your Soul is truly desiring to experience in this life... your North Node (by Sign & by House).


What may seem contradictory at first ~ (Your Pre-Natal Lunar Eclipse (what you are wanting to integrate & learn)...

...in the same sign as your South Node (aspects of your character that have been over emphasized in past lives) ~ perhaps may be quite a "gift." :confused:


As you mentioned, "it doesn't feel like I should leave one of the two directions behind in this lifetime for they both seem important and helpful to me." ~ ...are you aware of any qualities about your consciousness represented by your South Node (by Sign & by House) that you do not feel "complete" with?

So, it's actually kinda beautiful to set up your Natal Energies (Birth Chart) so that your Pre-Natal Lunar Eclipse energies (what you are wanting to integrate & learn) will assist your South Node to purify & "re-learn" the archetypes of your S. Node, by House & by Sign... to it's highest level of refinement & potential.

Then you are free to fully embrace the "new muscle" you are exercising ~ ...your North Node!

Maybe it's like... once you integrate a better understanding represented by your S. Node placement... you'll have the Wisdom of BOTH Worlds! (S. Node & N. Node)!

Nice Chart... I'm jealous... want to trade? :)

Hope there may be something helpful to you Freesia in these concepts? I like your wording about the healing affect by reading Astrology for the Soul.

Yea... it definitely clarifies Life Circumstances for me so I can joyfully continue to, "move forward" knowing that there is a purpose & a plan for all of us / ...that we are wanting to & will experience in this Lifetime!

[Freesia]

Hello Aquamarine, thank you very much for your thoughts on this topic, they have helped me to think about it in a more structured way again!! :)

Indeed, I have the feeling that it is important to first purify the things one brings from other lifetimes into the current one. There are sides that are over-developed and need to be relativated and "re-checked". So it's not wrong to dedicate intensive attention to the south node qualities as long as the goal remains to find a way out of these energies that leads to the north node energies... to combine both and, as you said, have the wisdom of both finally!!

What keeps me being confused at times is that my moon stands in the same sign and house as my south node (and pre-natal lunar eclipse) too. Sometimes I'm a bit afraid that I only find it easier to hold on to this energy because my moon makes me feel safe with it...? :confused: On the other hand, it's impossible to follow the call of the north node (and the planets next to him, for my chart it is saturn) without having clarified and stabilized the basis, i.e. the south node and its planets... right? Anyway, sometimes it gets a bit blurred to me.;)

By the way, another thing I'd like to ask is...I would be very interested in one of Jan's reports, such as about Venus, Mars etc. , but as I don't have a credit card I cannot pay in the way given on the form, is there any other possibility to buy it?

Again, I'm very happy about any answer!!

[Aquamarine]

Glad that helped Freesia! ~ ...hope it was a, "Healthy Reflective Process" for you because sometimes all we need are mirrors to see what we already know (inwardly) but need words from a different point of view.

Your 2nd paragraph (above) sounds like you're "in" a pretty good place to work with these energies! ;)

Do you ever feel like, maybe it's actually a challenging growth opportunity to show your Saturn... the value of 1st achieving an "inner emotional security" (the Moon) ~ ...before your go out into the world & master the material realm (that's Saturn) - ???

I really understand being afraid of uncharted ways of being. Encourage you to do what Jan's favorite saying is: "Run the Experiment" ~ ...in other words, not knowing the outcome but being open to new "data" that you will recognize as you re-intergrate your S. Node energies... which will clarify new directions to better navigate toward your N. Node (...and maybe teach, "old-man Saturn" a thing-or-two perhaps?)??? :cool:

Oh... and I am sorry Freesia, but we do not have a way to accept payments through the mail.

It is on our "To Do" List... and perhaps your request can "bump-up" it's priority.

Thank you for reminding us of this Service we are wanting to offer ~ ...unfortunately, it will be several months before we are able to implement this Feature.

I ask you to please understand that there is SO MUCH WORK that goes into Jan's Website (it's many Services, Reports, and Features) - that the production of it "running smoothly" are the efforts of many people working on it Internationally! Therefore, we've had to prioritize our "To Do" List accordingly.

If a payment for you with a Credit Card is not an option, perhaps a Debit Card from a checking account may be an option for you? Most banks provide these free of charge these days.

All the Best Freesia!

[Freesia]

Thanks a lot again, Aquamarine, for your wise words.

You are right, sometimes it's a big help just to hear the things again from another person's point of view.. E.g. what you said about my Saturn.. I liked that, I even had the same idea once or twice - perhaps if I learn my lesson well "he" then may also be able to learn a bit of the Moon's wisdom.. who know's?? ;)

Also the "Run the Experiment" advice hit the bull's eye.. At some point, thinking about the same things again and again just doesn't replace the action, probably especially when we don't know what there will come.. It's something I feel a deep truth about within me but sometimes it still frightens me.

As for the payment of Jan's reports, it's really a pity that it is so complicated without a credit card. But of course I understand perfectly that there are a lot of things to do with such a comprehensive Website.. it is really a very interesting and nice Site!!

Also thank you for the advice with the Debit Card, I will go and ask about this at the bank.. would be great if it worked this way.:)

Best wishes,
Freesia

[Blueginko]

Hi, just want to add my voice to the Credit Card issue. Might I suggest PayPal? You can set up recurring charges there (for the monthly fee) and we can use credit cards or bank accounts. It's easy to implement (I'm a web desginer/developer) if you don't have to tie it into a complex accounting system.

I just paid all my CC's off. I'm not at all anxious to start adding to them again.

However I'll keep in mind the debit card. I had a friend use Jan's book to do my charts and they were actually well they sent chills up my spine.

I did go out and buy a copy of the book to read. I'm anxious to learn more!

Blue.

[Aquamarine]

Hey! ~ Thanks for that most excellent idea Blue!

But Of Course... Paypal works great & is easy to set up. Thanks for your suggestion here. Not only to help other viewers of this Thread....

...but it's been so long since I established my Paypal account ~ ...forgot I had it :rolleyes:

Thanx for reminding me!

Yea... I know what you mean about Jan's books sending "chills up my spine." Her insights are so "right on the mark" that they really do help bring to words aspects of who we are & who we are becoming... so we can better navigate our Lives!

[Blueginko]

You are most welcome!

For me it was a weird mixture of getting me right on (my challenges this life time ) and telling me what I'm supposed to be doing just after my guide had told me. She basically told me my path, and my guide had told me to follow the same path, just before I read the interpretation of my chart.

I've had close calls of things like this before, but never quite like this. My guide told me to get my Tarot cards back out and start studying. Then my reading did too. I'd not looked at my Tarot cards in 20 years (or thought about them).

Wild

Cheers
Blue

[Freesia]

Thank you too, Blueginko, for that suggestion with paypal. This sounds like an easy solution. However, since I'm kind of a "country bumpkin" I always need ages to get used to such kind of things. One question... as far as I have understood the matter by now you need an email address you can send the money to... but is there an official Jan Spiller email address? Or does it also work in another way? Thanks again for your help.

Hello Aquamarine, unfortunately the online purchasing by a debit card from my country seems more difficult than I thought (at least with my bank).:( So I guess I will try the paypal option (as soon as I am through with "getting it" ;)).

Freesia

[Blueginko]

Well, I think that Jan or Jan's accountant would have to okay the use of Paypal. Surpising her with money sent to her email may not be the most diplomatic way to do it.

But if she or her accountant okay's it. Then that would be a great way for those of us who do not want a credit card charge to do this. If she set's up a paypal account, then she could also set up recurring charges for monthly services.

She does have an email, but I won't list it here without her permission.


Blessings
Mary